Fiche du jeu / ROGUE BY ROGUEHades 2
Texte original · AnglaisBattle beyond the Underworld using dark sorcery to take on the Titan of Time in this bewitching sequel to the award-winning rogue-like dungeon crawler.
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法力战斗与多层配置增加了策略空间，双路线改善局面变化；资料中的复杂成长流程拖慢入门。
Mécaniques de jeu essentielles
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法力与蓄力招式给近身战加入施法节奏，快照肯定动作深度；比前作复杂的操作与系统增加入门负担。
Combinaisons et stratégie
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武器形态、祝福、Hex 和 Arcana 形成多层搭配，局前配置有作用；部分武器和祝福协同仍偏弱。
Rejouabilité
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双路线及不同武器要求重新适应遭遇，反复对话辅助推进；多种材料采集也带来重复劳动。
Hasard et équité
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可用局前配置与战斗技巧调整风险，资料仍记录流派强弱差异及成长资源负担，补救空间并非均等。
Finition et ergonomie
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快照肯定操作反馈和整体打磨，但复杂材料及成长菜单提高理解成本；剧情结局争议本身不作为性能扣分。
- Évaluateur
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Rogue by Rogue · AI 资料评测- Version évaluée
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具体构建未知；以所引资料描述的版本为准
Périmètre et limites
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基于收录资料与官方页面的主观归纳，未进行试玩。快照含 2024/2025 Early Access 评论与正式版反馈，不能据此锁定同一补丁；以可交叉支持的核心机制评分，未复测结局更新或新平衡。
Sources de l’évaluation 02
- 01Documents archivésVoir les documents externes archivés ↓
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收录评论与社区资料（2026-10-01 快照）
使用 作者观点摘要 的 Tier list Part 3 (2025)、Top 10 of 2024 (#3) 及 玩家好评与批评 中的机制、交互、重复与易用性反馈；未将外部分数或旧等级用于计算。
- 02Source webVoir l’original ↗
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Hades II 官方产品说明
2026-10-08 访问。官方游戏页确认黑暗法术、冥界之外战斗及续作身份；具体 Arcana 和平衡反馈来自项目快照。 官方页面不单独证明平衡或稳定性。
Critiques vidéo
Critiques et analyses sur YouTube et Bilibili, dans toutes les langues. Ouvrez la vidéo originale pour la regarder.
Hades 2 Review
youtube.com/watch?v=gJdt4Ht85eI〖狗蛋的游戏评测〗黑帝斯2—杀回冥界
bilibili.com/video/BV121421B7Vo/PepperHead · Part 3
youtube.com/watch?v=VrHgKDkC3_Q&t=5935sPepperHead · 2024 Top 10 · #3
youtube.com/watch?v=pKh9Soutfj8&t=1023sPepperHead · 2025 Top 10 · #1
youtube.com/watch?v=BlodPuxYUwk&t=880sD’autres voix, à titre indicatif.
Les critiques tierces et documents communautaires archivés peuvent concerner différentes versions. Les avis et notes externes sont présentés séparément. Consultez les vidéos originales pour leur contexte complet.
Synthèse des discussions
Texte original · AnglaisSupergiant Games' isometric action roguelite sequel to Hades, in which Melinoe, witch princess of the Underworld, fights through Underworld and Surface routes to kill the Titan of Time, Chronos.
Texte original · AnglaisHades II is received as a near-universal success. Steam shows roughly 95.7% positive (about 123.7k reviews, Overwhelmingly Positive), PC Metacritic is 94 from 46 critic reviews with no mixed or negative scores, and Wikipedia cites 99% of critics recommending it on OpenCritic. Most players and critics say it improves on the original in combat depth, build variety, content volume, art and music. It left Early Access (launched May 2024) for a full release on Sep 25, 2025, then came to PS5 and Xbox in April 2026. The main fault line is the story ending and some repetition or grind in the late game, not the moment-to-moment gameplay. Third-party estimates put it at 2-5 million Steam owners and over $100M gross revenue (estimates, not audited).
Ce que les joueurs apprécient
- Texte original · AnglaisCombat is praised as faster, deeper and more skill-driven than Hades 1, with critics calling it some of the best action combat in games
- Texte original · AnglaisWeapon variety (multiple distinct weapon types with aspects) plus the Magick bar and Omega moves give many viable build styles
- Texte original · AnglaisBoons, Hexes and the Arcana (tarot) system combine into varied, experimental builds; progression is allocated after a run, which pulls you into the next one
- Texte original · AnglaisArt direction, character design, Darren Korb's music and the voice acting are singled out by both critics and players
- Texte original · AnglaisThe witchy, tarot and Greek-myth setting feels fresh rather than a reskin; Melinoe has a distinct feel from Zagreus
- Texte original · AnglaisHuge content volume and replayability, with reviewers reporting hundreds of hours and still seeing new dialogue
- Texte original · AnglaisStory and dialogue are woven into the run loop, with witty characters and reactive bosses (e.g. Chronos and Scylla reacting to pausing or muting music)
- Texte original · AnglaisSupergiant's polish and responsiveness to feedback, from a long Early Access period to post-launch ending patches, is widely appreciated
Ce que les joueurs critiquent
- Texte original · AnglaisThe ending is the most criticised element: Rock Paper Shotgun noted the game did not end with Chronos being killed as advertised, and Final Weapon called it extremely disappointing
- Texte original · AnglaisMany Steam negative reviews call the narrative resolution weak or an anticlimax, even while praising the gameplay
- Texte original · AnglaisPlayers complained that Zagreus and the Hades 1 cast overshadow Melinoe in her own game
- Texte original · AnglaisSome feel the boon system is less tightly tuned for synergies than in Hades 1, with some weapons or builds feeling weaker or too limited
- Texte original · AnglaisSeveral users feel it is a polished more-of-the-same iteration rather than a leap, with a familiar boon, weapon and gifting loop
- Texte original · AnglaisSome negative reviewers find the progression loop hollow or unrewarding after long play
- Texte original · AnglaisSeveral negative reviewers say the supporting characters feel static, with little growth or plot twists compared with Hades 1
Caractéristiques distinctives
- Texte original · AnglaisTwo separate routes, an Underworld path and a Surface path, instead of one descent (Erebus/Oceanus/Fields of Mourning/Tartarus vs Ephyra/Thessaly Rift/Mount Olympus/Summit)
- Texte original · AnglaisMagick bar that recharges by attacking, used for casts and Omega moves that pin or control enemies
- Texte original · AnglaisWitchcraft systems: Hexes channelling Selene's power, plus a tarot-style Arcana deck with Fear-style difficulty
- Texte original · AnglaisGathering and crafting resources in the Crossroads and between runs, with a larger hub and overworld feel
- Texte original · AnglaisStory told through run-by-run reactive dialogue, with a sequel that took years of Early Access updates (Olympic, Warsong, Unseen)
Points qui divisent
- Texte original · AnglaisThe ending and Zagreus's role: praised story depth from some, called a nothingburger or emotional letdown by others
- Texte original · AnglaisWhether it is a huge improvement over Hades 1 or a safe refinement of the same formula
- Texte original · AnglaisLate-game grind for the true ending: seen as satisfying replay value by some, padding by others
- Texte original · AnglaisBoon balance: some like the varied viable options, others miss the tuned synergies of the original
Répétition et contraintes
- Texte original · AnglaisResource farming and the many runs required to reach the true ending are called padding by some Metacritic users
- Texte original · AnglaisRepetitive boss encounters and limited level variety over long playtime
- Texte original · AnglaisSome players dislike specific weapons as too limited or uninteresting, and feel the loop wears thin after 100+ hours
Améliorations espérées
- Texte original · AnglaisA more satisfying, better-paced story conclusion and payoff for Melinoe specifically (Supergiant added extra scenes and an option to revert to the pre-ending state about a month after launch)
- Texte original · AnglaisLess reliance on returning Hades 1 characters; more focus on Melinoe's own arc
- Texte original · AnglaisTighter boon and weapon balance so every weapon feels worthwhile and build synergies are clearer
- Texte original · AnglaisReduce the resource farming and number of runs needed to reach the true ending
- Texte original · AnglaisMore variation in levels and boss encounters to cut down repetition over long playtime
Texte original · AnglaisEarly Access began May 5, 2024 (Windows), with macOS in Oct 2024; updates included Olympic (Oct 2024), Warsong (Feb 2025, final boss and expanded story) and Unseen (Jun 2025). Version 1.0 launched Sep 25, 2025 on Windows, macOS, Switch and Switch 2; PS5 and Xbox Series X/S followed Apr 14, 2026, including Game Pass. Launch reception was overwhelmingly positive, with backlash on Steam focused on the ending; Supergiant responded roughly a month later with added scenes and an option to revert to the pre-conclusion state. The game won Best Action Game at The Game Awards 2025 and several audio and Steam Deck awards, and was nominated for Game of the Year at several ceremonies. Steam price is $20.99 (Mac supported, no Linux build). Revenue and ownership figures are third-party estimates: Steam-revenue-calculator estimates about $109.7M gross and $32.4M net to the developer; SteamSpy lists 2-5M owners. The OpenCritic integer score could not be retrieved because web search budget was exhausted and the OpenCritic page fetch failed.
Sources communautaires
- Texte original · AnglaisTop helpful positive and negative English Steam reviews (local file) ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisSteam appid, review totals, SteamSpy owners, revenue estimate ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisSteam store page: 95.7% positive, Overwhelmingly Positive, release date and price ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisMetacritic overall: critic 95 from 54 reviews, user 8.5; critic and user summaries ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisPC Metascore 94 from 46 reviews, all positive; critic praise ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisPC user score 8.7; repetition, grind and narrative complaints ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisReception, awards, Early Access timeline, ending controversy and patch, platform release dates ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisTop-rated Steam community reviews: praise for polish, art, music, addictive loop ↗
- Texte original · AnglaisEstimated gross and net revenue (Boxleiter method, not audited) ↗
Commentaires archivés du créateur 2
Ces synthèses tierces reposent sur des sous-titres automatiques et peuvent contenir des erreurs de transcription ou d’interprétation.
Texte original · AnglaisTier list Part 3 (2025)
Texte original · AnglaisHades II is the early-access sequel to Supergiant's Hades, starring Melinoe, a magic-wielding protagonist fighting to save her family from Kronos. He considers the original a masterpiece and finds the sequel a true sequel rather than DLC, keeping the feel while twisting the mechanics. He calls the current early access build fantastic, and even bigger than Hades 1. It becomes his first S tier of the night, and he likes it more than the original, though he is pausing until full release and suggests newcomers may want to wait.
Ce que le créateur apprécie
- Texte original · AnglaisKeeps the original Hades feel while feeling like a real sequel, not a DLC
- Texte original · AnglaisMelinoe as a magic user changes pacing: longer dash, running, mana, chargeable attacks
- Texte original · AnglaisArcana cards replace the mirror with far more build and permanent-ability customization
- Texte original · AnglaisTwo full paths (surface and underground) with entirely different biomes and monsters, both feeling full
- Texte original · AnglaisDevelopers actively take player feedback and change mechanics in each update
- Texte original · AnglaisVoice acting, art and a deeper, more serious story with flashbacks are excellent
- Texte original · AnglaisWider resource/crafting currencies (seeds, minerals, fishing) that tie into route choice
Problèmes relevés par le créateur
- Texte original · AnglaisMore complicated mechanics than Hades 1, losing some of the first game's simplicity
- Texte original · AnglaisWonders whether building two paths was necessary versus one path with double the content
- Texte original · AnglaisMany currencies and systems are hard to grasp without seeing them
- Texte original · AnglaisStill in early access, so he recommends newcomers consider waiting for the full release
Observations sur la conception
- Texte original · AnglaisTwo entirely separate paths with no reused biomes or monsters, effectively two games in one
- Texte original · AnglaisRoute choice driven by which craftable materials you want to bring back to the hub
- Texte original · AnglaisArcana card system with unlock-by-filling-slots progression is a richer meta-progression than the mirror
- Texte original · AnglaisSequel design that adds complexity yet stays playable even when tired
Avis actualisé
Texte original · AnglaisHe says he already discussed Hades 2 in depth a few months earlier; this is an early-access evaluation and things have changed since.
Texte original · AnglaisTop 10 of 2024 (#3)
Texte original · AnglaisHades II is Supergiant's action roguelite sequel, still in early access in 2024, where Melinoe fights to rescue her family from Kronos. He calls it one of his top games of the year and keeps the original as a long-time favourite. He finds it slightly slower and more complex than the first game, and more reliant on meta-progression and grind, which he enjoys. He is unsure the dual-path (underworld or surface) split was necessary, but finds it an impressive inclusion and praises the developers for listening to feedback.
Ce que le créateur apprécie
- Texte original · AnglaisNew mechanics added while keeping the feel of the original
- Texte original · AnglaisHack-and-slash combat that still feels good despite Melinoe being more of a magic user
- Texte original · AnglaisHub full of NPCs, permanent upgrades and cosmetic options that keep players engaged between runs
- Texte original · AnglaisStory is more serious, which he prefers
- Texte original · AnglaisLarge amount of content for an early access game, at least as much as Hades 1
- Texte original · AnglaisStart-of-run choice between underworld and surface, each a complete world with its own biomes, enemies and bosses
- Texte original · AnglaisDevelopers keep listening to player feedback and updating the game
Problèmes relevés par le créateur
- Texte original · AnglaisEverything is a bit more complex, which may not suit every player
- Texte original · AnglaisMeta-progression needs multiple ingredient types, making it more grindy and longer to finish
- Texte original · AnglaisUnsure the two-path split was needed versus doubling content on one path
- Texte original · AnglaisSome players may be disappointed by changes from the first game
Observations sur la conception
- Texte original · AnglaisChoosing the underworld or surface path before a run, each a fully separate world
- Texte original · AnglaisAdditional dash/sprint mechanic, extra Omega weapon moves, and Arcana cards that are more intricate than the Mirror
- Texte original · AnglaisHeavier meta-progression tied to the increased importance of story
